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05-02-17 09:52 Search ... SEARCH Posted on May 17, 2011 by Roger Pearse From Aulus Gellius’ Attic Nights, book 4, chapter 11, we find this Pages curious tale about Pythagoras, the philosopher well-known for his vegetarianism and opposition to eating beans. It is, perhaps, from an anti-Pythagoras source. About this blog Eutychius, “Annals” – my posts 11. The nature of the information which Aristoxenus has handed down about Pythagoras on the ground that it was more authoritative; and also what Plutarch wrote in the same vein about that same Pythagoras. containing the translation Sitemap The ‘Halkin’ Life of Constantine in English The works of Augustine against An erroneous belief of long standing has established Secundinus the itself and become current, that the philosopher Manichaean in Pythagoras did not eat of animals: also that he English abstained from the bean, which the Greeks call κύαµος. In accordance with that belief the poet Contact Me Patrologia Latina Callimachus wrote: (PL) PDF’s Patrologia Graeca I tell you too, as did Pythagoras, (PG) PDF’s Withhold your hands from beans, a hurtful food. Die Griechischen Christlichen Schriftsteller (GCS) Also, as the result of the same belief, Marcus Cicero PDF’s wrote these words in the first book of his work On Patrologia Divination: “Plato therefore bids us go to our sleep in Orientalis (PO) such bodily condition that there may be nothing to PDF’s cause delusion and disturbance in our minds. It is thought to be for that reason http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2011/05/17/pythagoras-is-full-of-beans/ too that Errata et

05-02-17 09:52 Pythagoreans were forbidden to eat beans, a food supplementa for that produces great flatulency, which is disturbing to Eusebius, Gospel those who seek mental calm.” Problems and Solutions So then Cicero. But Aristoxenus the musician, a man thoroughly versed in early literature, a pupil of the philosopher Aristotle, in the book On Pythagoras which he has left us, says that Pythagoras used no vegetable more often than beans, since that food gently loosened the bowels and relieved them. I add Aristoxenus’ own words: “Pythagoras among vegetables especially recommended the bean, saying that it was both digestible and loosening; and therefore he most frequently made use of it.” Recent Comments Roger Pearse on The Annals of Eutychius of Alexandria (10th c. AD) – chapter 18c Aristoxenus also relates that Pythagoras ate very young pigs and tender kids. This fact he seems to (part 7) ECAW's blog on have learned from his intimate friend Xenophilus the The Annals of Pythagorean and from some other older men, who Eutychius of lived not long after the time of Pythagoras. And the Alexandria (10th c. same information about animal food is given by the AD) – chapter 18c poet Alexis, in the comedy entitled “The Pythagorean (part 7) Bluestocking.” Furthermore, the reason for the mistaken idea about abstaining from beans seems to be, that in a poem of Empedocles, who was a follower of Pythagoras, this line is found: Roger Pearse on The Annals of Eutychius of Alexandria (10th c. AD) – chapter 18c O wretches, utter wretches, from beans (part 7) withhold your hands. ECAW's blog on The Annals of Eutychius of For most men thought that κυάµους meant the vegetable, according to the common use of the word. But those who have studied the poems of Empedocles with greater care and knowledge say that here κυάµους refers to the testicles, and that after the Pythagorean manner they were called in a covert and symbolic way κύαµοι, because they are the cause of pregnancy and furnish the power for human generation: and that therefore Empedocles in that verse desired to keep men, not from eating beans, but from excess in venery. Plutarch too, a man of weight in scientific matters, in the first book of his work On Homer wrote that Alexandria (10th c. AD) – chapter 18c (part 7) Roger Pearse on The Annals of Eutychius of Alexandria (10th c. AD) – chapter 18c (part 7) Recent Posts Aristotle gave the same account of the Pythagoreans:

05-02-17 09:52 namely, that except for a few parts of the flesh they The Annals of did not abstain from eating animals. Since the Eutychius of statement is contrary to the general belief, I have Alexandria (10th c. appended Plutarch’s own words: “Aristotle says that AD) – chapter 18c the Pythagoreans abstained from the matrix, the (part 8) heart, the ἀκαλήφη and some other such things, but used all other animal food.” Now the ἀκαλήφη is a marine creature which is called the sea-nettle. But Plutarch in his Table Talk says that the Pythagoreans also abstained from mullets. The Annals of Eutychius of Alexandria (10th c. AD) – chapter 18c (part 7) But as to Pythagoras himself, while it is well known From my diary that he declared that he had come into the world as A couple more Euphorbus, what Cleanthes and Dicaearchus have recorded is less familiar—that he was afterwards Pyrrhus Pyranthius, then Aethalides, and then a images of the Meta Sudans from Twitter The Annals of beautiful courtesan, whose name was Alco. Eutychius of Alexandria (10th c. AD) – chapter 18c (part 6) Share this:  Email  Twitter  Facebook  Reddit  Google  Tumblr Tags Agapius Al-Makin Like this: Ancient  Like world Anthony Be the first to like this. Posted in Ancient world Tagged Ancient world, Aulus Gellius, Pythagoras Alcock Antinoupolis Antiochus of Athens Arabic Christian Literature Astrological texts « From my diary Eusebius update » Attis Bible British Library Catena 5 thoughts on “Pythagoras is full of beans!” James Snapp, Jr. says: May 18, 2011 at 5:52 am Chapter titles Christianity Christianity Chrysostom Project Hmm. All this reminds me of a story about two philosophers — I Computing wish I could recollect their names. Anyway, it goes something like Coptic Copyright this: one was a royal advisor; the other was poor and

independent. The royal advisor, after enjoying a satisfying meal, was on his way back to the palace when he encountered the other philosopher in the street, and said, “Friend, you could have good meals every day, if only you would learn to flatter people.” To which the other philosopher answered, “And you could be an honest philosopher every day, if only you would learn to like beans.” 05-02-17 09:52 Egypt Eusebius Eutychius Forgery and counterforgery Free speech online Yours in Christ, From James Snapp, Jr. my Roger Pearse says: May 18, 2011 at 7:32 pm I find the story in Paley’s “Greek wit”, almost on the first page. diary Humour Ibn Abi Diogenes the Cynic was washing some vegetables, Usaibia when he saw Aristippus pass. Says the Cynic, “If Information you had learnt to clean cabbages you would not have been a courtier in the halls of the great.” access “And if you,” retorted the other, “had learnt how to Isidore of associate with your fellow men, you would not now Pelusium John the have been cleaning cabbages.” — Diogenes Laertius, Lydian book 2, 8:68. Manuscripts Somewhat later in Paley is the following, which perhaps explains the first. Mar Aba Matthew 27:25 Meta Sudans Methodius The wife of King Hiero once asked Simonides Mithras whether it was better to be born wealthy or wise? Origen Origen “Wealthy, it would seem,” he replied, “for I always see the wise hanging about the doors of the rich.” — Homilies Aristotle, Rhetoric, book 2 ch. 16. Project Other Arabic Other Paley’s Greek wit (in two volumes) can be found at Archive.org. James Snapp, Jr. says: May 18, 2011 at 9:47 pm blogs Oxford Patristics Conference Papyri Thanks; I’ll have to check that out! Patristics Yours in Christ, Severian of Gabala Syriac James Snapp, Jr.

05-02-17 09:52 Maureen says: May 20, 2011 at 12:31 pm I realize the mullet mentioned is a fish, but I had a sudden picture of Pythagoras pointing at a disciple and demanding he cut his hair short in back. Roger Pearse says: May 20, 2011 at 7:26 pm Arf. Few Pythagoreans, then, were in 80’s synth-bands… Leave a Reply Enter your comment here... Proudly powered by WordPress | Theme: Underskeleton by getunderskeleton.com.