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Edited with a Preface by ALAN C. BOWEN
GARLAND PUBLISHING INC. NEW YORK and LONDON
1991
CONTENTS
1. Some Remarks on the Origins of Greek Science and Philosophy
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CHARLES H. KAHN
2. Plato's Sclence—His View and Ours of His
ALEXANDER P. D. MOURELATOS
3. The Aristotelian Conception of the Pure and Applied Sciences
JOSEPH OWENS CSsR
4. Platonic and Aristotelian Science
ROBERT G. TURNBULL
5. On the Notion of a Mathematical Starting Point in Plato, Aristotle, and Euclid
IAN MUELLER
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7. What Euclid Meant: On the Use of Evidence in Studying Ancient Mathematics
WILBUR R. KNORR
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6. Ratio and Proportion in Early Greek Mathematics
D. H. FOWLER
8. Euclid’s Sectio canonis and the History of Pythagoreanism
ALAN C. BOWEN
9. Aristoxenus’ Harmonics and Aristotle's Theory of Science
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ANDREW D. BARKER
10. The Relation of Greek Spherics to Early Greek Astronomy
J. L. BERGGREN
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11. The Definition, Status, and Methods of the Medical in the Fifth and Fourth
Centuries
G. E.R. LLOYD
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12. Between Data and Demonstration: The Analytics and the Historia animalium
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JAMES G. LENNOX
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)Some Remarks on the Origins
This is not the occasion for new and surprising theses concerning the Presocratics, and that is just as well, for I have no new and surprising theses
to present.
Instead I shall defend some old theses and try to put them
in a perspective that may be useful here as a background for the more
specialized papers to be presented in this volume.
Philosophy in the strict sense is pretty clearly a Greek invention; but
at first sight Greek science, and above all Greek astronomy, seems to be
a borrowing from the Orient, like sculpture, architecture and the alphabet.
Does this mean that the older view is wrong, I mean the view presented by
Tannery and Burnet, who wrote before we learned so much about Babylonian astronomy and mathematics, and who portray Greek science and
natural philosophy as coming into the world together, one and indivisible,
first in Ionia and then in southern Italy and Sicily, in the sixth and early
fifth centuries BC? I want to argue that the old view is right after all, and
that once we have absorbed the discoveries of Neugebauer and other explorers of Mesopotamian science, we can see that Greek science is essentially
a new creation, inseparable after all from the origins of Greek philosophy
in the earliest phase of these two disciplines. In short, I want to defend
the traditional view that Greek astronomy and natural philosophy (and
the beginnings of geography and history too) first developed in Miletus
in the middle of the sixth century BC and then spread like an epidemic
throughout the Greek world, first by contagion to the neighboring cities
of Samos, Colophon, Ephesus and Clazomenae, then to Ionian colonies in
the northern Aegean (Abdera and Apollonia); and soon, travelling with
refugees and immigrants to the far west, to Croton and Metapontum, to
Elea and Acragas. So within the two generations that separate Anaximan-
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)der from Parmenides, Ionian science had been carried across the Greek
world, paralleling the diffusion of the alphabet some two centuries earlier.
Now the utility of the alphabet is obvious; but in the case of what the
Greeks called tepì pioews ¡utopía (the investigation of nature), it is not immediately clear why this should have been so widely attractive so soon. The
new science had its utility, no doubt, in so far as it included map-making
(probably derived from the East) and observational astronomy (certainly
derived from the East). But I think it was above all the intellectual power of
a new, naturalistic or rational world-view which captured the imagination
of an amazingly curious, open-minded people, beginning with a handful of
pioneers along the Anatolian coast and in neighboring islands, but spreading swiftly throughout those bustling Greek cities scattered across half the
Mediterranean. We can form some notion of the motivation and diversity
of these first two generations (from about 550 to 490 BC) in the glimpses
we get of three very striking and very different personalities—Pythagoras,
Xenophanes, and Heraclitus—who contributed both to the renown and to
the rapid physical diffusion of Ionian natural philosophy.
I do not propose to retell this familiar story. Instead I want to concentrate
on the two features which best mark the radical break with earlier worldviews, both in Greece and in the Orient, and which illustrate the close
links between exact science and philosophical speculation in this earliest
period.
I think that a clear grasp of these two features will protect us
against three seductive errors which can distort our understanding of the
origins of Greek science and philosophy. The first error is to see Presocratic
natural philosophy as a continuous development from mythopoetic thought
in Homer and Hesiod, without a revolutionary break. The second error is
to see Greek astronomy (and/or mathematics) as essentially a continuation
of Mesopotamian science, without radical innovation. The third error is the
view championed by D. R. Dicks [1966], which treats the development of
Greek observational astronomy as if it were completely independent of the
speculative theories of the early natural philosophers. I have argued the
case against Dicks in my response [Kahn 1970], and I refer you to this article
for detailed documentation. Here I summarize some of my conclusions.
I take it for granted that the new science that arose in Ionia in the
sixth century was heavily dependent upon Babylonian astronomy, much in
the way that the creation of the alphabet was dependent upon Phoenician
sources and the creation of Greek sculpture and architecture was dependent upon models from Egypt. (This is all part of the ‘orientalizing period’
of Greek culture, in the broadest sense.)
Herodotus tells us of some essential borrowings in the case of Greek astronomy:
‘The Greeks learned
of the möAos and the gnomon and the twelve parts of the day from the
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)Babylonians’ [Hist. ii 109].
For once he is right (although his guess, in
the preceding sentence, that geometry was discovered in Egypt, has not
been confirmed). For example, the identity of the Morning Star and the
Evening Star, which had been known in Mesopotamia for many centuries,
is first attested in Greece for Parmenides [Diogenes Laertius, Vitae ix 23 =
Diels and Kranz 1951-1952, i 224.29-31]. (The absence of Greek evidence
before Parmenides is surely an accident of our meager documentation for
this early period: no doubt the information passed to Italy through Ionia.)
How much Babylonian lore was available in Ionia in the sixth century we
cannot know. But the Milesians added something for which there seems to
be no Mesopotamian precedent. This is a geometric model for the heavens,
a clear-cut scheme of concentric circles and other figures by which the observed motion and changes of the heavenly bodies were to be explained.
The first and crudest of these models is attested for Anaximander: a series
of circles set at numerically definite distances from a disk-shaped earth in
the center. The model was quickly transformed and improved by his successors. Within two generations we get the classical scheme of a celestial
sphere to which the fixed stars are attached so that their observed motion
is explained by the daily rotation of the sphere. (When exactly the stellar
sphere was introduced is not clear from our shabby evidence, but not later
than the poem of Parmenides, ca. 500 BC.)
Somewhat later, but before
the time of Plato, the flat, discoid earth is replaced by a spherical model
for the earth as well. It is this kind of geometric model (but without the
spherical earth) that permits Anaxagoras to come up with a correct optical
explanation of lunar eclipse by the middle of the fifth century BC. Now the
important thing is not that the early models were so crude—that is only to
be expected. What was important was that a geometric model for celestial motions had been proposed, with explanatory intent.! At the technical
1 By a model here I mean a good deal more than a cosmic picture of the sort
that one might find in Hesiod’s Theogony, and more also than the picture of the
heavens that served in Babylonian astronomy for plotting the movement of the
Sun, Moon, and planets relative to the fixed stars, since such a picture serves only
to describe but not to explain the observed phenomena. Scientific astronomy in
the Greek sense begins with the attempt to give such an explanation by means of
a definite structure conceived in terms of precise geometrical figures and relative
sizes and distances. Such a model made possible the correct explanation of the
Moon’s light by the time of Parmenides and the correct explanation of lunar
eclipse by the time of Anaxagoras.
Since we have no astronomical texts from
this period, we cannot know when the various technical advances were made that
are incorporated in the later theory of spherics. The ascription of five zones to
Parmenides by Strabo [Geog. i 94 = Diels and Kranz 1951-1952, i 225] on the
authority of Posidonius is probably unreliable. But the pseudo-Platonic Erastae
132a [= Diels and Kranz 1951-1952, i 393] implies that schoolboys in the middle
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)level, it is this model that essentially defines the new philosophical view of
the natural world as a k6opos, a system governed by regularity and order.
And it is this same model that brings into existence scientific astronomy in
a new sense: a structured theory capable of explaining (or trying to explain) the observed phenomena of the heavens. In this sense the cosmology
of Anaximander and Parmenides is closer in principle to that of Ptolemy
and Copernicus than it is to Hesiod or to any of their predecessors—unless _
one finds a geometric model in Babylon.
The second great innovation of Greek science is the notion of mathematical proof.
On this point I can quote Neugebauer (1963, 530]: ‘the
discoveries of the Old Babylonian period had long since become common
mathematical knowledge all over the ancient Near East’. What the Greeks
added was ‘a fundamentally new aspect ..., namely the idea of mathematical proof. It is only then that mathematics in the modern sense came into
existence.’
What Neugebauer does not see, but what seems obvious to me, is that
the idea of proof plays the same role here in the creation of Greek mathematics as the kinematic models for the heavens plays in the creation of
astronomical theory. When did this fundamental innovation in mathematics begin? Neugebauer tends to date it relatively late, in the fourth-century
work of Theaetetus and Eudoxus. But the reports on Hippocrates of Chios
take us back earlier, to the last half of the fifth century.
Hippocrates is
said to have been the first author of Elements, that is, a presentation of
geometry in deductive form; and, in a long extract from Eudemus’ history
of geometry, we can see him operating with the ‘method of hypothesis’ or
explicitly recognized premisses.
Before Hippocrates we have no detailed
documentation, so I shall not «claim this achievement for my hero, Anaximander. Of course the tradition recorded by Eudemus actually assigns the
earliest. geometric proofs to Anaximander’s predecessor, Thales of Miletus
[Friedlein 1873, 157.10-13, 250.20-251.2, 299.1-5, 352.13-18 = Diels and
of the fifth century, in the time of Anaxagoras and Oenopides, were supposed
to be familiar with a structure showing the obliquity of the ecliptic relative to
the celestial equator:
the boys seemed to be arguing about Anaxagoras or about Oenopides. For
they appeared to be drawing circles and imitating certain inclinations by
their hands <relative to one another>.
Once these two circles are drawn on a celestial sphere, a partial system of zones
is given. Whoever wrote the Erastae thought that Anaxagoras and Oenopides
were doing this kind of astronomy. I see no reason to believe that we are better
informed than the author of the Erastae on the development of scientific theory
in the fifth century.
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)Kranz 1951-1952, i 79.8-19]. Thales is more a figure of legend than of
history, but this image of the sage who predicts an eclipse, uses geometry
to measure the height of the pyramids, and also begins cosmological speculation, nicely reflects what I take to be the fundamental historical fact:
that observational astronomy, speculative cosmology, and mathematical
research were developing together within those small circles of intellectual
activity that carried the new science from Ionia to Magna Graecia and
beyond.
We cannot reconstruct the early history of mathematical proof in Greece
as we can reconstruct (to a certain extent) the development of a celestial
model. But we can see the two enterprises interacting or coinciding in the
work of Oenopides of Chios (after Anaxagoras and before Hippocrates),
who did major work in astronomy but studied certain problems in geometry
‘because he thought they were useful for astronomy’ [Friedlein 1873, 283.410 = Diels and Kranz 1951-1952, i 395.10-14] and specifically for measuring
the obliquity of the ecliptic.
Oenopides also contributed to speculative
cosmology by explaining the Milky Way as the path previously marked
out by the Sun’s annual course, before it settled in the ecliptic [Achilles,
Isag. 24 = Diels and Kranz 1951-1952, i 394.29-32]. And we can see
the same interaction between observational astronomy, technical work in
geometry, and philosophical cosmology (as well as map-making) in the case
of Democritus, whose contribution to the mathematics of the cone and the
pyramid is recognized by Archimedes [Heath 1921, i 180].
Although we cannot reconstruct the early development of mathematical proof in Greece, we can perhaps see this development reflected in the
examples of philosophical arguments that happen to be preserved.
The
oldest and most elaborate of these arguments has reached us intact simply
because it was embedded in the hexameters of Parmenides’ poem. (For this
one argument preserved from the beginning of the fifth century there must
have been dozens if not hundreds of arguments contrived by the mathematicians but lost, because they were in prose or not even written down.)
Parmenides begins with a clear statement of his premiss or first proposition, presented in the choice between a pair of contradictories, it is or it
is not; and he gives reasons for rejecting the second alternative. He then
proceeds to derive a number of attributes of Being from the single premiss
that it is.
So it must be one, unique, dense, symmetrical, immobile, ungenerated and imperishable. The argument for the attribute ungenerated
is preserved in full. It is an indirect argument proceeding from a trilemma
of assumptions: if what-is has come into being, then it must have come to
be (a) from Not-Being, (b) from Being, or (c) from nothing at all. All three
assumptions are shown to be incompatible with the basic premiss that it is
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)and so they must be rejected.
Hence, by a series of reductio arguments
which eliminate the alternatives, the thesis that it is ungenerated is established. This argument clearly parallels the form of an indirect proof in
geometry. And we can recognize the same general pattern of argument over
and over again in the preserved fragments of Zeno, Melissus, Anaxagoras,
and Diogenes, where it is used either to defend or destroy a thesis. Either
we have p or not-p. My opponents assert p. But look what absurd (or false
or contradictory) results follow from p. Therefore not-p. Or else, I assert p. °
For just imagine the opposite, not-p.
But if not-p were the case, things
would be quite different (or impossible or ridiculous).
Therefore p must
be the case.2
Incidentally, I think we can also see the influence of a mathematical mode
of argument in the way Anaxagoras and other thinkers such as Diogenes
first construct their dpxn or starting-point (‘all things together’, plus vows
ready to start things rotating, in the case of Anaxagoras), and then show
how the world-order develops naturally and inevitably (‘by necessity’) out
of these initial conditions. The physical dpxn occupies the place of premiss
or hypothesis; the development of the cosmic order is analogous to the
derivation of theorems.
In the case of these philosophical arguments, preserved almost by chance
for the whole length of the fifth century, it must remain anyone’s guess how
far they presuppose, or how far they prepare the way for, the use of formally similar arguments in geometry. Some scholars (notably Szabó) have
argued that the development of proof by the mathematicians is essentially
dependent upon the (supposedly) earlier deductive exploits of the Eleatic
philosophers. In the absence of any good textual evidence for mathematical proof earlier than Hippocrates in the late fifth century, it is impossible to refute Szabö’s thesis; but I think there is nothing to be said in its
favor [cf. Berka 1980, Knorr 1981a, Bowen 1984].
Hippocrates’ proof is
so elaborate that it clearly presupposes a considerable tradition of some
technical sophistication; and it is a sheer accident of our documentation
that we cannot trace this tradition back to its origins. My own hunch is
that the development of more or less rigorous proof in mathematics and
in philosophical argument went hand in hand, but that the geometrical
application is likely to have led the way from the beginning, even before
Parmenides. In these matters it is normal for philosophy to borrow from
mathematics, just as we can see Plato in the Meno taking over the method
of hypothesis from geometry. But in the beginning the philosophers and
the mathematicians will often have been the same people, as the tradition
2 Compare Geoffrey Lloyd’s remarks [1979, 25 and 71-78] on the use of modus
tollens and reductio arguments in fifth-century philosophical and medical texts.
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Democritus (and of a sophist like Hippias). The real contribution of philosophy was not in the specific techniques of proof but in the very idea of
proving geometric propositions: taking some things for granted, either as
obviously true or temporarily assumed, in order to establish what follows
from them. This seems to me just as deep and philosophical an innovation
as the introduction of geometric models for the heavens.
There is a third fundamentally new idea which we can detect in the fifth
century and which has been elegantly documented by Geoffrey Lloyd, the
concept of nature as a uniform system implying a regularity of cause and
effect. This is the doctrine asserted in Airs, Waters, Places 22: ‘each affliction (md80s) has its own nature and none of them occurs without a natural
cause (bois). As Lloyd points out [1979, 33], the origins of such a view
can be glimpsed in Anaximander’s fragment on cosmic justice; and a dogmatie generalization is found in the somewhat questionable ‘fragment’ of
Leucippus [Aétius, De plac. i 25.4 = Diels and Kranz 1951-1952, ii 81.3-6];
but for a full articulation we must turn to the Hippocratic treatises of the
late fifth century. This again seems to me simply an accident of our documentation: the older Hippocratic treatises are the only non-fragmentary
scientific/philosophic texts that have reached us from the fifth century.
Their close connection with Ionian science seems to me clear; but I leave
this topic to Geoffrey Lloyd.
What Iam proposing, then, is the traditional view of the origins of Greek
science and philosophy in the emergence of a closely connected bundle of
diverse but interrelated activities in the sixth and fifth centuries BC, before
the systematic specialization and separation of the disciplines that becomes
more characteristic of scientific work in the fourth century and later. There
may well have been astronomers and mathematicians in the fifth century
who were not also natural philosophers, but the more typical case is that
of Oenopides and Democritus who worked in all three fields.
Socrates is
probably the first philosopher whose conception of his calling is essentially
independent of work in astronomy and cosmology; and, according to the
biographical sketch of the Phaedo, that was not true even of Socrates in his
youth.3 The close connection between philosophy, science, and mathematics
is just as characteristic of Greek philosophy in its first century and a half
as it is of the initial period of modern philosophy in the 17th century.
3 The only possible precedent for Socrates that comes to mind is Protagoras, but
his rejection of a realist view of truth seem unthinkable without the traditions of
Eleatic ontology and Ionian cosmology. Socrates may well have been fascinated
by natural philosophy in his youth, but there is no trace of this in his own positive
conception of philosophy.
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)And it is this essential interconnection which is exemplified in the two key
ideas which I have emphasized: geometric models for the heavens and the
development of deductive proof.
If we bear these two ideas in mind, we
will not be tempted by either of the three errors to which I referred in
the beginning: to see Presocratic cosmology as a continuous development
from Hesiodic mythopoetry; to see Greek science as a mere borrowing from
the East; or to see the development of scientific astronomy as essentially _
independent of speculative cosmology, as Dicks and Neugebauer would have
us do.
It is really painful to see a great scholar like Neugebauer saying,
in his masterful History of Ancient Mathematical Astronomy [1975, 572],
that there is ‘no need for considering Greek philosophy as an early stage
in the development of science.
Its role seems to me only comparable to
the influence on science of the Babylonian creation myth or of Manichean
cosmology’. I think it would be difficult to find a more profoundly mistaken
view in any serious book ever written on our topic. I can only put it down
to an extraordinarily narrow construal of science and to a morbid dislike of
speculative theory on Neugebauer’s part.
More interesting, and perhaps more prevalent, than the line taken by
Dicks and Neugebauer is the related error of exaggerating the continuity
between Ionian science and its poetic antecedents.
Of course, the early
natural philosophers were men of their time and place; their language and
much of their conceptual equipment were inherited from the Greek past.
But their debt can be overestimated and their originality masked by reading
back into Homer and Hesiod some of the most characteristic ideas of the
Milesians and their followers. There is a Cambridge tradition for this, going
back to Cornford and still visible in Kirk and Raven (even in the second
edition of 1983) and in some of Guthrie’s work.4
Thus Kirk and Raven claim that in ‘the naive view of the world’ in Homer
‘the sky is a solid hemisphere like a bowl’ [Kirk, Raven, and Schofield 1983,
9]. If there had been such a clear geometric model before the Milesians,
the invention of the stellar sphere would have marked a relatively trivial
advance in a continuous tradition.
But in fact there is no trace of the
notion of a celestial hemisphere or bowl in Homer or in any poet earlier
than Parmenides; in so far as oùpavòs in Homer has any definite shape,
it is that of a flat roof or a steep incline rising to the zenith [Kahn 1985,
138-140].
But the very notion of a clear geometric model composed of
circles and spheres (as distinct from an anthropomorphic structure like a
house or a tent) is alien to mythopoetic thought as we find it in Homer and
4 But this tendency is not limited to Cambridge.
Wade-Gery of Oxford once
wrote an essay [1949, 81] in which he described Hesiod as ‘the first Presocratic’.
And compare, for example, Solmsen 1950.
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)Hesiod. Even more seductive is Cornford’s misreading of xdos in Hesiod as
a somewhat distorted version of the Polynesian myth of the separation of
heaven and earth. Thus we find in Kirk and Raven: ‘For Hesiod’s source,
at all events, the first stage in the formation of a differentiated world was
the production of a vast gap between sky and earth’ [Kirk, Raven, and
Schofield 1983, 41]. Cornford found an echo of this supposed source in
some verses from Euripides [Frag. 484 ]: ‘Heaven and earth were once one
form; but then when they separated from one another, they gave birth
and brought all things to light’.
But of course Euripides is quoting not
Hesiod but Empedocles or Anaxagoras or some other natural philosopher.
To project this view back into pre-Milesian mythopoetry is once more to
make the revolutionary novelty of Milesian cosmology invisible. It is also
to make hash of Hesiod, for whom xdos, the primeval gap, came into being
first of all.
This is not the occasion for a more sympathetic reading of the Theogony,
along the lines of Paula Philippson’s study [1936] or of Norman Brown’s
sensitive interpretation [1953]. I want only to remark that Cornford’s reductive approach to Hesiod, reading not the text of the poem but looking
through it to find the more primitive ‘source’, has the effect not only of
disguising the radical novelty of Ionian cosmology but also of doing an
injustice to Hesiod’s own speculative achievement. He set out to imagine
what there could have been first of all in the beginning, before anything
had taken shape.
ferent ways.
Different mythic poets conceive this beginning in dif-
Hesiod’s ploy was to imagine an enormous gap, a vacant,
yawning hole with no sides. In the genealogical language of mythopoetry,
the negative character of this primordial chasm is revealed by its offspring,
infernal darkness (Erebos) and black Night. What we have then is a kind of
black hole, into which things could only fall and be lost. The first positive
item to appear is ‘broadbosomed Earth, a safe seat for all things forever’.
Earth is a safe seat because it prevents things from falling into the dark
chasm below.
Hence everything positive and solid will now be produced
from Gaia. Her first product is the starry Heaven ‘equal to herself, to cover
her all around’. So the world now has an upper floor, and Gaia now has
a mate.
This story has a beautiful coherence of its own, which is to all
appearances Hesiod’s own creation. And if some of the succeeding misadventures of Gaia and Ouranos do have a non-Greek source, this has nothing
to do with a primeval Polynesian ‘clinging together’, and also nothing to do
with the cosmologists’ quite different attempt to understand how a differentiated universe could emerge in a natural way from the initial hypothesis
of an undifferentiated mass, whether this mass is described as dtetpov or as
‘boundless air’ or as ‘all things together’.
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Bekijk in PDF(opent in een nieuw venster)In conclusion, let me say one word about the demarcation between science and philosophy, I can be brief, because in the period before Socrates
there is no such demarcation.
The investigation of nature (mepl búxews
totopta) comprises both. Looking back from our point of view, we might
see the prefiguration of a distinction between philosophy and science in the
division between the two parts of Parmenides’ poem: the Way of Truth,
which presents a metaphysical account of Being, and the Way of Opinion,
which describes the genesis of the natural world. When we come to Plato’s |
Timaeus, we can see the transformation of this dichotomy into something
resembling our distinction between a philosophical account of reality (in the
doctrine of Forms) and Plato’s own version of Ionian natural philosophy
or physics, as a ‘likely account’. But that lies outside my propos.
I should add that I have considered only the internal history of Greek
science and philosophy in its earliest phase.
The external history—the
social, economic, and political conditions of this momentous innovation—
would require another paper.
But I would have nothing substantial to
add beyond the very instructive parallel between the emergence of rational
thought about the physical universe in the sixth century and the contemporaneous development in Greek political life—the parallel that was (to
my knowledge) first usefully drawn in J.-P. Vernant’s Les origines de la
pensée grecque [1962], and then convincingly developed in the last chapter
of Lloyd’s more recent study [1979].
I can add only one final question.
If one accepts the thesis developed by Jasper Griffin [1977], as I am inclined to do, then the author of the Iliad must be seen as having made
a systematic attempt to eliminate, suppress or play down all of the more
strikingly miraculous and monstrous elements in the older epic tradition.
That means that the Greek tendency to think of the circumstances of human life in ‘naturalistic’, non-magical terms can be seen at work already in
the late eighth century. In this perspective it is Homer and not Hesiod who
might properly rank as the first Presocratic. Now can we trace back to the
time of the Iliad that political and sociological parallel which works so well
for the sixth century? If not, is this too an accident of our documentation?
Or is this evidence for a more Weberian view of the essential autonomy
of intellectual history?